Here is what I did, as I chose the Hybrid Open Loop/Closed Loop approach: With a big cam (lots of overlap) and long tube headers, O2 sensors (including widebands) are worthless at idle. A suggestion we were given by the guys at LG Motorsports - do what the factory did on the F-body cars, and first drill a 3/32" to 1/8" hole in the throttle body; that will get the idle air pretty close, close enough that the engine will at least start and idle at a low-enough RPM you can dial in the idle air tables. A range of dates and times are available. Go back to the VCM bi-directional controls click the on tab for AFR control under the Fuel and Spark tab and set the AFR to 14.7 (should by default be that). Discuss all things tuning in this section. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Anyone with HPtuners or EFI Live tuning software can do this also. During WOT you should be able to get at or over 99%. $), Malta (USD The trims act slow so that is why the spark advance correction tables are so critical (discussed below). Listen to your engine for idle quality as well. $), Mauritius (USD $), Bhutan (USD ive never done a case relearn. $), South Africa (USD You will need to experiment here as each application is different. https://forum.hptuners.com/showthread.php?42387-cant-get-TPS-to-reset-to-0/page2. Choose your class below for more information and to register. Relearn Procedure for Models WITH PUSH-BUTTON IGNITION. Then press the accelerator on the floor for 15 seconds. did you mean retune? Open VCM Scanner. Silikhan Publishing Group, llc & SilveradoSS.com I found this on gm trucks.com. Join the HPTuners crew by subscribing to our YouTube channel! The STIT is the equivalent of STFT in fueling and LTIT is the equivalent of LTFT in fueling except we are dealing with airflow. Its possible to brick your computer any time you flash it. I also made sure there was no adders adding fuel such as Add vs. ECT and Add vs. IAT. In the same group of tables, set the Delay RPM and Enable Torque to Zero. thats a old carb trick ,works on cable driven tb's but is a no no on drive by wire from what ive been told, I just wanted to check if you wrote for a/f ratio 16.3, I have a 06ss408strocker with a 112maggie 2.8 and my a/f ratio is at 14.0-15.3 alot of flacuation, but at idle it goes through half a gallon of fuel in 20min, i think it's to rich but don't know if I can lean it out any more also cruising speeds on th highway a/f is at 14.0-15.6 do u think it's possible to lean it out or is it ok at that ratio for low load on the truck, Well thankyou before hand for any help u send my way, thank you krambo i got the email thanks going to try it out to day. The PCM can use the dbw throttle for torque control and this causes the throttle to close when the torque limit is exceeded. Afghanistan (USD This website uses cookies to improve your experience. Built for tuning professionals and enthusiasts of any caliber. :crapfan: I emailed tech support and this is the response I got: I came across this thread today so I thought i'd update. Can i get this on tape??? $), Luxembourg (USD Car is supercharged with a centri blower. The authorized use of such tools is to bring a motor vehicle into emissions compliance and/or to maintain emissions compliance, as well as for use on competition/racing and other exempted vehicles. Yea I think I'm going to stick with the old fashion method, whenever I hear the words "brickable", I get a sour taste in my mouth. If you get some idle surge, chances are you may have too much timing in there (if your base running airflows are tuned and your fueling is good). As for your P1516 DTC, this isn't an issue I've struck myself but it is usually related to the fitment of a larger throttle body. If you are interested in this approach (drilling), I personally do not see any issues with it. In general the "hole" should be big enough so that IAC counts (IAC position) at hot idle is around 60-70 +/- a few units. The TP sensor provides a voltage signal that changesrelative to throttle blade angle. $), South Sudan (USD LOL Thats a really nice write.. $), Turkmenistan (USD $), Tunisia (USD Pasted as rich text. 1 - Turn the KOEO, while viewing your scanner, adjust your throttle body set screw until your throttle position is 2%, 2 - Turn your key to the OFF position, disconnect your scanner, 3- Head out under the hood and unplug your (TPS) and Idle Air Control Valve (IAC). It's explained in detail here: http://www.gearchatter.com/viewtopic9440.php. $), Norfolk Island (USD You may need to fine hand adjust your Base Running Airflow table to achieve tighter results (keep in mind your LTIT are disabled so you will not see a value yet). The engine is supposed to cutoff fuel at ~4000 rpm but no dice, would just keep revving. So I was just solving an issue for temporary vehicle use LOL :), Last time I dynoed it with the DBW fault though, it made over 770whp and 900nm to the wheels. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Posts, The TPS reading of 83% is actually normal (well typically this is 88% in my experience. From the Factory Service Manual: 5.7L CAUTION: Do not use spray (carb) cleaners on any part of the throttle body. Also the ETC Area Scalar (HPT > Engine > Idle > Idle Airflow > General > ETC Area Scalar) falls into the same category. Show off more of the action with picture-in-picture video, 360 video, and 4K Ultra HD. HP Tuners GM Gen III Training Part 29: Cable Throttle Idle Tuning walks you through how to properly tune with a cable throttle body based LS application. Top Answer. $), Belize (USD Personalize your track day videos with customized layouts, data visualizations, and even your own logo graphics. These codes may pop up since you now made changes to what the normal O2 readings are so it is just easier to delete the codes. This is optional however did help me out for off idle transitions: Set Closed loop proportional O2 error to (left to right): 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.06250 0.15479 0.18750 0.21484 0.24023 0.27002 0.27979. When you have all of the data, simply copy and paste the data collected in Histogram 1 to your current tune file you just flashed. It's time to take diagnostics and calibration beyond the pavement with new Powersports support for Polaris and BRP applications, including Can-Am and Sea-Doo. $), Cape Verde (USD Sales and Purchasing. $), Nauru (USD This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Diagnose Mass Air Flow Problems w/ VCM Scanner. The TP sensor is mounted to the left side of the throttle body. Also the Fuel System #1 Status displays OL-FAULT. $), Indonesia (USD $), Malaysia (USD You just have to make sure you do it right, exactly like the instructions that pop up when you choose your OS. $), China (USD Then tried the "CASE relearn" and this time it worked ! Our VCM Scanner makes scanning and running diagnostics on OBDII-equipped vehicles effortless, while the VCM Editor gives enthusiasts and tuning pros the power to adjust a multitude of parameters. TPS should read right around 0.4% - 0.8% for best results here. Make sure that you always the first receive our latest news and promotions. This prevents any Pe mode fuel enrichment to occur. S10forum is the community to discuss the S-Series, Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon. Smoothly blend the new values from the 50rpm cell into the last cell (300rpm) and see what that does for you. just connect to the truck with the scanner and go to the vcm controls, (button at top that says on off) and go to the special tab. i didn't write reports that long in college, nice post. $), Cameroon (USD Get your SxS or Sea-Doo performing its best with MPVI3 and VCM Suite. Goat Rope Garage 80.1K subscribers Join Subscribe 223 Share Save 9.4K views 3 years ago Support Those Who Support The Garage. if stock setting is 10, go to 9 and try it, and so on) but do not go lower than 2.5%. $), land Islands (USD General Motors introduced electronic throttle, or drive-by-wire, with the LS1 engine in the 1997 Corvette. When revving to 4500 the rpms kind of hang a bit before dropping. $), Lesotho (USD These cookies do not store any personal information. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Now that I think about it, our crank sensor's are at the rear of the block and by removing and installing the balancer should' t have any affect on the sensor, but removing and installing the flywheel might throw something out of balance maybe. TrackAddict enables drivers to capture their laps on and off the track through their Apple or Android smartphone as a free downloadable app. Then turn the key back on clear the codes and the tps is reset to 0. this car has a previous history with the same issue. Just kidding. $), Kazakhstan (USD $), Faroe Islands (USD Hp tuners stated its extremely rare to brick your computer. Any of you Drive By Cable (DBC) GM LS owners out there ever had an idle issue you just cant get correct? Effective Area). First thing you will need to get a rough tune to actually make it fire and hold idle so you are in a position to run scans and zero it in. $), Maldives (USD $), El Salvador (USD As the truck is idling, click on Histogram 1 and watch as the scanner populates the base running airflow numbers vs ECT. $), Montenegro (USD $), Isle of Man (USD It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. If you look at the math, I basically took an additional 10% out of my Ve table in the idle areas only. Flash this new tune with all of the updates into your truck. $), Greenland (USD kevin have you found any ways around the evap solenoid? I was also able to dial in my idle so nicely and get the timing perfect on it to where it uses the least amount of fuel and still has enough timing correction. $), Pitcairn Islands (USD $), Norway (USD Set Pe enable to a value lower than what you see at idle (look at your previous idle scans), I set mine to 50kPa and see 75-76kPa at idle (HPT > Engine > Fuel Control > Power Enrichment > Power Enrichment Pe Enable tables). While you have your file open, set your Min temp for adaptive idle to an appropriate temperature (HPT > Engine > Idle > Idle RPM > Adaptive Idle RPM Min ECT). $), New Zealand (USD Posts, I've ran into a problem with an electronic throttle body on a supercharged LS7 engine last week on the dyno. I have to put that in most of my threads because Im late to the game here and some people like to just in and say did you search blah blah. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. $), France (USD Im still having a .4% anomaly. Anyways, the percentage relation between the FPS and the TPS is somewhat out of wack (see attachment). Do the base running airflow procedure again if you make any changes as raising base spark may lower desired air and dynamic air. February 15, 2015 by LS Engine DiY. If the PCM sits at a very high LTFT such as 25% for a long period of time, the PCM will set a DTC. As a guideline, it should be *about* 30 degrees cooler than your engine normally runs. Join the HPTuners crew by subscribing to our YouTube channel! $), Bahrain (USD $), Palestinian Territories (USD 7 - If you are not at your desired TPS and IAC position redo the above procedures in smaller increments such as 1% changes. Make sure that your Idle Spark Advance table (both In Drive and In Park) match your High and Low Octane Table for all columns up to 1200rpm (HPT > Engine > Spark Control > Spark Advance > Idle Spark Advance (in Park, in Gear), Hi and Lo Octane). Or need to contact us for any other reason? great news, what did it make in the end up? (HPT > Engine > Fuel Control > OL/CL > Open Loop > Eq Ratio). Powered by Invision Community, Silikhan Publishing Group, llc & SilveradoSS.com. If they enroll we will email you a discount too. These cookies do not store any personal information. As a GERNERAL guideline, you can follow this suggestion: Cams with negative overlap up to zero, set idle to 850-900 all cells across the board, add 1 g/sec to idle airflow across the board both in P/N and in gear (HPT > Engine > Idle > Idle Airflow > Base Running Airflow), add 2 of idle timing 1200 rpm and under and 0.08 0.28 g/cyl inclusive (HPT > Engine > Spark Control > Spark Advance > Idle Spark Advance (in Park). Lol. $), Guyana (USD For big cams you may not want it to react so quickly when it really may not need it because of a normal rpm drop when the valve events overlap. We're going to try to put on factory cai and throttle body. Account and Website. Check local garages. Driving the car it drives great I put 500 miles on it before I brought it to him. $), Finland (USD Does your new set-up have a hard time starting when warm (turns over several times before firing)? GM Gen III LS PCM/ECM: Electronic Throttle Equipment Guide. But things are getting better although Im still having a .4% anomaly. $), Iraq (USD $), British Virgin Islands (USD Another suggestion is to lower the A/C Torque TPS Max. .. Hey mark how are you doing? Paste as plain text instead, The factory calibration leaves the Park/Neutral (P/N) setting at 4,000 RPM. Set Pe enrichment to 1.0 from 0RPM to 1200RPM inclusive. Built for tuning professionals and enthusiasts of any caliber. $), Mongolia (USD Seems like sometimes if I flash it twice it may not do it. This process may take a few shots, so dont give up! Clear editor. Fill your Garage with the Cars, Trucks, and Bikes youre driving, building or even dreaming about, so we can create and share content that fits you better! As a guideline (since your standing idle is now fairly dialed in), zero out your cracker table from columns 400-1000rpm and through rows 0-32mph. This will give a nice curve and should avoid surging due to fueling. Say hello to the latest generation OBDII interface by HPTuners. Add 50 camshaft rotations to the Idle Start-up Airflow Delay vs. ECT (HPT > Engine > Idle > Idle Airflow > Start-up Airflow Delay). No crank relearn here after the cam swap Well I think I will try the crank relearn anybody have any pointers? When you find that good timing number, adjust your idle timing advance cells in your tune, usually from 0-1200RPM and 0.08 0.28 g/cyl (rememberdo all the timing tables: Idles and Mains! Does anyone see a "reset TPMS" prompt anywhere in the menus/sub menus? $), Belarus (USD Have you maxed out the torque limit tables? $), Cte dIvoire (USD This shit is so annoying and I think its getting worse. $), Montserrat (USD This software suite combines the forces of our VCM Scanner and VCM Editor software, bringing enthusiasts and tuning professionals the ultimate diagnostic and calibration package. Air conditioning fluctuations. I also pulled a few spark plugs and noticed they were not soot covered however were not lean as well. You may wish to reduce your 400, 800 and 1200rpm columns Ve values by a couple of percent and see what that does. By the time I pay to have it done Im 3/4 of the way to HP Tuners. $), Panama (USD I dunno. $), French Guiana (USD I use 0.8 for the time being and it seems to work on my cam (however I think I will revisit this frequently). Taxes and shipping calculated at checkout. $), Nicaragua (USD TPS should read right around 0.4% - 0.8% for best results here. Power OFF by pushing the button 1 time. Read more about becoming a Gold member here. News, products, problems and results. In this Tech Tuesday, learn the crank sensor relearn procedure for your vehicle u. First you need to clear any trouble codes that may exist (from driving it without performing relearn or trying to upshift and decel at the same time which throws up the CEL and StabiliTrak off and reduced power light which sucks). My cam has a very healthy 27* of positive overlap which is on the very high end of any cam you will typically find on a street driven truck. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. FWIW. $), Turkey (USD O.K. $), Uruguay (USD If you have a big cam with lots of overlap, expect to peg this value across the board for all tables. As a GENERAL guideline (no true mathematical formula for this), multiply the Main Ve Table column 400rpm by 60%, column 800rpm by 80% and finally column 1200rpm by 90% (HPT > Engine > Airflow > General Airflow > Main Ve). 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